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Monday, October 6, 2008

SarahCuda vs. The Associated Press

If anything is dropping faster than the stock market, it's the media's level of integrity. Yesterday, the Associated Press dove further into the gutter by accusing Governor Palin of racism. I'm not particularly surprised by the claim, as the Obamaphiles in press seem to be fond of using racism claims to dispute any argument that they can't legitimately refute. However, I am appalled at the reasoning behind this claim, as it seems to be the first time the media has admitted that any criticism of Obama (including legitimate, totally non-racial remarks) can and will be labeled as racism.

Here's the breakdown: The AP has declared Palin a racist for associating Senator Obama with Bill Ayers, an admitted and unrepentant terrorist who once bombed the U.S. Capitol. Here's the problem: Ayers is white; most of his "Weather Underground" colleagues were white; and he is often referenced as an archetype of the (predominantly white) pseudo-intelligentsia of 1960s radicals masquerading as intellectuals on America's college campuses. Mr. Ayers has no connection to anything that would be considered "black", let alone "stereotypically black". In fact, associating Obama with Ayers is more of an attempt to associate him with the snobbish (and, again, mostly white) class of leftover-hippies-turned-radical-professors. So, basically, the AP has declared Palin racist because she associated Sen. Obama with a bunch of elitist Caucasians.

This bizarre feat of intellectual gymnastics was justified by the AP as follows:

Palin's words avoid repulsing voters with overt racism. But is there another subtext for creating the false image of a black presidential nominee "palling around" with terrorists while assuring a predominantly white audience that he doesn't see their America?

Read that again very carefully. Essentially, they said that she did nothing racial at all, but merely that she dared to suggest that Senator Obama is anything less than a divine gift to America. If this paradigm were applied across the board, EVERY criticism of Obama would be labeled racism. Using that definition, it is literally impossible to say anything negative about the Senator from Illinois without committing a racist act.

Think about that for a second - let it sink in. According the the AP, NOBODY CAN EVER SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT BARACK OBAMA.

Friends, that's not just unjournalistic...it's downright Orwellian.

Sarah Palin is not a racist. She never has been; She never will be; and it is an understatement to say that the AP owes her an apology. It is appalling to me that Barack Obama's association will Bill Ayers, an admitted and unrepentant terrorist, would be considered anything less than "fair game". Until such time as Sen. Obama admits that he showed bad judgement by ever associating with Mr. Ayers, this should remain an open issue, and we should regard any media attempt to bury the story as censorship.

Apologies if this sounds a little radical of me, but this is genuinely how I see it, and I challenge the AP to prove to me that I am wrong.

115 comments:

SensibleDude said...

"Sarah Palin is not a racist. She never has been; She never will be..." That's a fairly sweeping statement to make. How do you know she never will be?

The racism point is a fair one to consider. When people in the USA think of terrorists they almost invariably associate the term with Muslims/arabs. Many voters will not know or research facts about Ayers and could understandably presume that Palin is talking about foreign terrorists.

That implied association with Al Qaeda or a similar group is what is potentially racist. Some conservatives claim that Obama is Muslim (and a hefty number of McCain supporters believe the lie) and have tried to emphasise his middle name to remind people of his "foreign" roots. Is it unfair that there is heightened sensitivity to racial issues with Obama? Is it unfair that there is heightened sensitivity to gender issues with Palin? or age issues with McCain?

Racism is not always a liberal excuse to attack the right; it is often a valid charge.

techno said...

The definition of racist: somebody who hates others who are not of his or her own race. By Sarah calling attention to Obama's association with Ayers she is not declaring her hatred for Obama but questioning his judgment on who he associates with. For example if Sarah was a Democrat and called out a black John McCain on his association with Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda during the Vietnam War (folks this is not true)would the left-wing media claim she was a racist for questioning McCain's judgment?

willnevergiveup said...

Interestingly enough the man that Obama picked to find a VP for him -- James Johnson -- is a man who seems to be associated with the press (and the AP).

James Johnson is a strong Obama supporter who has personally donated the maximum $4,600 to his 2008 Presidential campaign, as well as $1,000 to Obama's Senate campaign in 2004.

In addition to personal donations, Johnson is a bundler of the Obama campaign, raising between $200,000 and $500,000.

James Johnson is a former director of Gannett Co., Inc. which is the leading international news and information company. To research his current association with Gannett, it is listed that he has been associated with Gannett from 2000-Present. Gannett is on the Board of Directors for the AP.

more here...
http://willnevergiveup.wordpress.com/2008/09/20/johnson/

Listing of Johnsons’ affiliations
http://investing.businessweek.com/businessweek/research/stocks/private/person.asp?personId=562149&privcapId=519250&previousCapId=22399&previousTitle=Perseus,%20L.L.C.

Gannet Company list of organizations it owns:
http://www.mediaowners.com/company/gannett.html

Scott said...

"Senator McCain and his operatives are gambling that he can distract you with smears rather than talk to you about substance".......

well if this isn't a hypocritical statement...


in today's email to obama supporters the campaign manager stated "history is relevant and voters deserve to know the facts"..

well i'm glad he feels that way because they're about to.

Jan said...

When the media starts stooping to ad hominem attacks, it is really getting bad. The good news is ad hominem attacks are signs of a weak argument. They can't argue with the facts so have to attack the person to distract people from their lack of a valid argument. They sure are using the racist card a lot, though.

Scott said...

it is true and that's just how it is in our country.. i remember in the 80's when my uncle (i point out he's white just to show the context) was turned down a job as a police officer in pennsylvania because they "weren't hiring whites" at the time. Later on my dad made the comment the only group that it is acceptable to be prejudice against is white males..and it's true when you think about it.

Look how many poor and homeless people were preyed upon in ohio to vote for the "black guy". I've heard from people that they were offering food to homeless people in return for their obama vote.. here in florida this is a criminal offense. I can't imagine the lies they told these people to get them to vote.

jen said...

Barak Obama is not a terrorist. He never has been; He never will be; and it is an understatement to say that Sarah Palin owes him an apology.

Compassionate Conservative said...

I called our local newspaper today to stop our subscription. They have been running AP articles slanted against Palin for several weeks and I'm tired of paying for what I can get online for free.

When I was awarded a degree in Communication Arts 30 years ago, I was convinced that most journalists exhibited a sense of integrity and fairness. I am ashamed to see what has happened to that reputation.

Remember when reporters actually investigated stories rather than reprint liberal talking points and articles from other sources?
A free media helps to keep government in check.

We now have a majority of activist media seeking to appoint their chosen leader. They can no longer conceal their frustration over the results of the last two Presidential elections. They believe John Q. Public is not smart enough to handle that decision, so they must act in our own best interest.

Did the AP ever hand over Palin's
hacked emails? I know they initially refused to give them up during the investigation.

Honestly, I do not know if McCain can successfully run against Obama and the MSM.
But then again, I still believe in miracles!

If nothing else good comes out of this election, we will have had the privilege of getting to know a woman of courage and character that deserves much better than the treatment she has received. We've had 16 acting Governors become President. I would love to see her make that 17! She has more common sense, intelligence and as much experience as the previouse 16!

technogeek said...

Forget the Racism charge. Her Speech in Englewood will be in BO's next attack....

"Our opponent ... is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists who would target their own country," Palin told a group of donors in Englewood, Colo. A deliberate attempt to smear Obama, McCain's ticket-mate echoed the line at three separate events Saturday.

I'm guessing 2 days till Todd's registration in the Separatist's party and her address to it in 2006 are in adds.

What are these idotic handlers thinking?

They will use her words and show the pictures....

Crowds show up to see and hear SP. She would go over better on the news if she was sending a positive message.

If we think the Obmaba voters won't show up to vote, we are very very mistaken. Negative attacks will drive the one group M/P NEEDS... Independents.

If SP's negatives go too deep, we can kiss any chance of 2012 away.

Joe said...

Let me ask a simple question: WHY DOESN'T PALIN TALK ABOUT ENERGY?

This was THE winning issue for Republicans just a few short months ago. This is THE issue that Palin knows more about than McCain, Obama, and Biden combined.

I saw T. Boone on television tonight, and he said pretty much the same thing. Palin knows this issue, all other candidates do not.

Palin's energy focus can provide the American people something CONCRETE in our search for answers regarding what we can do about our economic future. Her energy vision will provide jobs, provide lower gas prices, provide short time/medium term/long term energy security, AND provide independence from middle eastern terrorists, all at the same time. This is the issue that all Americans can sink their teeth into.

Name me a real plan that Obama has provided, that will provide all of the above. It doesn't exist.

Palin and McCain need to seize the opportunity. They should convince Pickens in this late inning to come on board, and spread an easy to understand, positive, forward thinking, Country First message.

I know that energy is one part of her stump speech, but it needs to be the FOCUS of her entire campaign, rather than just another "rah, rah" line. This is too serious a time for a standard stump speech. Time to get detailed, and fast.

The moment is now. Time is so short.

Forget Ayers, forget Wright. Let other surrogates bring up these issues, if need be. But not Palin.

Sarah, be positive, like Reagan. Give a clearcut, optimistic vision of the future, based on your energy plan and economic philosophy.

Let's go, McCain/Palin. Our country is depending on you, right now. Get back on message! Country first, energy independence, and energy security.

Audrey said...

I completely agree, Adam. The MSM simply doesn't care about integrity anymore - they want Obama to win so badly that they're not even feigning neutrality.
It's not just the daily smear pieces they employ against her, sometimes just little things. Like today, for instance, I noticed something about the headlines on the Yahoo homepage. When Obama comes out with his latest attack against McCain (Keating or "McCain's diverting attention from the economy"), the attack is written out simply and nothing negative is implied about Obama in the title of the article. Another article title, coincidentally the one you wrote about, associates Palin with the word "racist", when it should simply say something more neutral like "Palin brings up Obama's ties to Ayers". It's done that way to mmediately pollute readers' perceptions (most people won't even read the article, and
just assume it's true).

It's enough to drive one batty. When Obama goes on the attack, the media just repeats what he says, but anything McCain or Palin says is analyzed to death, "fact" checked, or twisted any which way they can that'll cast them in a negative light.

manajordan said...

I know that this does not specifically address this post, which I think is a good one, but a quote attributed to Abraham Lincoln I think sums up much of the philosophy that McCain and Palin are trying to fight against.

"You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by encouraging class hatred. You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot keep out of trouble by spending more than you earn. You cannot build character and courage by taking away man's initiative and independence. You cannot help men permanently by doing for them what they could and should do for themselves."

Grace Explosion said...

YAY! CBS Poll Obama 47 - McCain 43 The race is tightening again following VP debate!! We're going to win!! :) The last 30 days will go in our favor. Obama is a racist. He's the one who sat under Reverend Wright for 20 years as Rev. Wright preached hate against "white America". By saying that anything we say against Obama is racist - that's racist. Obama/Ayers have the connections to racist groups. Obama is the radical leftist - he's racist.

But anyway, the exciting thing is that as they take off the gloves and Governor Palin smiles, winks, and tells America the truth about Obama - she's gonna win!! :) We're gonna win!! :) I know she's going to win it in these last 30 days winning the hearts of the American people and telling the truth about Obama.

Here's the CBS Poll info. We're going to win. :) Good job, Adam!! You gave us the winning VP!! (You helped draft her at least.) Good job!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/06/opinion/polls/main4504633.shtml

tom paine said...

Adam,

You are entirely correct that Barack Obama's association with William ayers is fair game. It makes little difference that Obama was 8 years old when Ayers was a nut case. Obama should have known Ayers history. The fact that they happened to live in the same Chicago neighborhood and their kids went to the same school does have some bearing, but Ayers history is a matter of record.

Similarly, John McCain's "Keating Five" situation and the decisions McCain made at that time also are fair game. When McCain made payments (years and years later and only after the scandal became exposed) for stuff he received from Charles Keating...McCain basically admitted guilt of judgement if not criminal guilt. When the Senate sanctioned McCain for his poor judgement, it was further proof. But just like the Obama's and Ayers, McCain and Keating is fair game.

Same with Sarah Palin. She has every right to bring up Ayers and the Rev. Wright. Actually, Obama had much more recent associations with Wright than with Ayers. And while ayers has mostly recanted, Wright has not.

However, Gov. Palin's association with the Rev. Thomas Muthee also is fair game. Muthee is supposedly known for being a witch doctor or witch hunter or something. There is a videom of the Rev. Muthee praising Gov. Palin and "blessing" her and laying hands on Sarah Palin.

In fairness, do you think that this should be made public and that perhpas Gov. Palin should be asked to comment on it, just as McCain and Obmama have been asked about their questionable associations?

The video of Sarah being blessed and Muthee laying hands on Sarah are all over youtube and very easy to find.

Now, do you Adam have the honesty and character to post this? and

Mountain Mama said...

Jen, I visited your blogsite, and saw the photo of your baby, who is darling!

Look, Palin doesn't mean that Obama is a terrorist. Instead, she's pointing out something very important: Obama is SO LIBERAL that she actually has unrepentant terrorists against America as his friends!

I lived in Hyde Park for four years, and it's considered cool for liberals there to hang with very far-left people ("radical chic"). I used to BE one of them (NEVER did I commit terrorism, but I led MANY marches in my whacko-liberal days.....sigh......).

So here's Palin's message: Obama is extremely liberal, even to the point of accepting friendships with people who have actually committed SEVERAL terrorist acts against America---and who, to this very day, are NOT SORRY, and would do it again! They're awful!

Ayers and Obama follow Saul Alinsky's radical policies re. teaching kids radicalism in schools, too. Unless you, too, are extremely liberal, Jen, you as a mother won't find their views acceptable. (Good heavens, STUDY MATERIAL is supposed to be taught in schools, not how to subvert America!)

tom paine said...

technogeek is entirely correct. Team McCain and his stupid campaign manager Rick Davis (who made the inane comment "this election will not be decided by the issues" and who seems intent on making that come true) decided to make it a gutter campaign after McCain's poor performance during the bailout and to draw attention away from the economic mess since it benefits Oabama.

But it very well may bakcfire on them. Along with Todd and Sarah's association with the Alaska Seperatist group you will probably see much more about Troopergate. It is NOT a dead issue as today's announcement that all the others except for Todd and Sarah have agreed to testify. This after Gov. Palin said she WANTED the investigation.

Also, the Rev. Thomas Muthee incident is now also fair game. He is some sort of witch hunter who thinks he can cast them out and an incredible video is all over youtube showing Muthee blessing and laying hands on Sarah!

Sarah was just getting her mojo back and could be talking about energy but instead Team McCain and jerk Davis had her go into attack mode and soon she will be the one doing the explaining of personal stuff like her sister's divorce and Muthee. That's not a smart move, to say the least.

knowitall said...

I have written on this subject before on this site. Please forgive me for repeating this, but I think this deserves to be reviewed again.

Todd Palin is a Yupik Alaska Native.
Their children are the same.
Sarah and Todd are an interracial couple.

My opinion is that the best way to deal with the accusation of racism is to turn it around, if you can. In this case it is clear that the MSM has been racist in their comments about the Palins long before this recent charge against the Palins.
Todd Palin grew up in Dillingham, Alaska, which is on the reservation. He knows about diversity firsthand. Sarah, as governor of Alaska, dealt with over 200 tribes and their reservations (which are 200 enities, like countries, that boost her foreign policy experience).
Why would an interracial couple, who know about racism, ever choose to be racist?
Hogwash!!!

Mountain Mama said...

Here's the DAMAGING information (read and memorize this!) from the Wall Street Journal's Stanley Kurtz re. Obama's links with the terrorist, Bill Ayers:
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Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.

The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking through them.

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy.

The CAC's basic functioning has long been known, because its annual reports, evaluations and some board minutes were public. But the Daley archive contains additional board minutes, the Collaborative minutes, and documentation on the groups that CAC funded and rejected. The Daley archives show that Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda.

One unsettled question is how Mr. Obama, a former community organizer fresh out of law school, could vault to the top of a new foundation? In response to my questions, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's "recruitment" to the board. The statement says Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham (presidents of other foundations) recruited him. Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.

The CAC's agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers's educational philosophy, which called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism. In the mid-1960s, Mr. Ayers taught at a radical alternative school, and served as a community organizer in Cleveland's ghetto.

In works like "City Kids, City Teachers" and "Teaching the Personal and the Political," Mr. Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression. His preferred alternative? "I'm a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist," Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk's, "Sixties Radicals," at about the same time Mr. Ayers was forming CAC.

CAC translated Mr. Ayers's radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with "external partners," which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).

Mr. Obama once conducted "leadership training" seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama's early campaigns. External partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education. CAC's in-house evaluators comprehensively studied the effects of its grants on the test scores of Chicago public-school students. They found no evidence of educational improvement.

CAC also funded programs designed to promote "leadership" among parents. Ostensibly this was to enable parents to advocate on behalf of their children's education. In practice, it meant funding Mr. Obama's alma mater, the Developing Communities Project, to recruit parents to its overall political agenda. CAC records show that board member Arnold Weber was concerned that parents "organized" by community groups might be viewed by school principals "as a political threat." Mr. Obama arranged meetings with the Collaborative to smooth out Mr. Weber's objections.

The Daley documents show that Mr. Ayers sat as an ex-officio member of the board Mr. Obama chaired through CAC's first year. He also served on the board's governance committee with Mr. Obama, and worked with him to craft CAC bylaws. Mr. Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Mr. Obama. Mr. Ayers spoke for the Collaborative before the board. Likewise, Mr. Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the Collaborative.

The Obama campaign notes that Mr. Ayers attended only six board meetings, and stresses that the Collaborative lost its "operational role" at CAC after the first year. Yet the Collaborative was demoted to a strictly advisory role largely because of ethical concerns, since the projects of Collaborative members were receiving grants. CAC's own evaluators noted that project accountability was hampered by the board's reluctance to break away from grant decisions made in 1995. So even after Mr. Ayers's formal sway declined, the board largely adhered to the grant program he had put in place.

Mr. Ayers's defenders claim that he has redeemed himself with public-spirited education work. That claim is hard to swallow if you understand that he views his education work as an effort to stoke resistance to an oppressive American system. He likes to stress that he learned of his first teaching job while in jail for a draft-board sit-in. For Mr. Ayers, teaching and his 1960s radicalism are two sides of the same coin.

Mr. Ayers is the founder of the "small schools" movement (heavily funded by CAC), in which individual schools built around specific political themes push students to "confront issues of inequity, war, and violence." He believes teacher education programs should serve as "sites of resistance" to an oppressive system. (His teacher-training programs were also CAC funded.) The point, says Mr. Ayers in his "Teaching Toward Freedom," is to "teach against oppression," against America's history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.

The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.

Mr. Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.

knowitall said...

first of all, Jen, I agree that your baby is a doll. You are very lucky.

The CBS poll said that 20% of the electorate is still undecided!!!
That number may be high but the number is probably still in double digits.
The proof is the swings in the polls. Often the electorate goes back and forth as they look each side over. I think the decisions will be made the the last few days of the race.
Techno is 100% correct. It ain't over, doggonit!!!
Please stay optimistic!!!

JoAnn said...

Unfotunately, Kurtz's conservative views will keep any liberals from even listening to what he said in his excellent article. I know, because I have sent it to many people who support Obama and they have dissed it.

The McCain-Palin team and their handlers better do something SOON before the campaign implodes. This is turning into a disaster. It is making me ill.

Mountain Mama said...

*** Smack-WHOOO Blowakiss *** to Grace Explosion and Knowitall for keeping us hopeful!

If only McCain would talk SLO-OWLY, with a big SMILE, and tell on-target JOKES tomorrow night!

80% of communication is BODY LANGUAGE and FACIAL EXPRESSION!

Let's go back to HOPEFUL!

techno said...

Everybody that reads this: go to free republic.com and under breaking news you will see 'devastating video'-follow it through and I think you'll agree that Sarah is on to something.

Scott said...

"""Barak Obama is not a terrorist. He never has been; He never will be; and it is an understatement to say that Sarah Palin owes him an apology."""

jen i don't think anyone called, or accused obama of being a terrorist... the important thing though is determining (by digging under the politics of it all, the polished performance to get votes) the real views of the candidate, what they believe and feel.. now i don't know about you or anyone else but if i don't share the views of people, i sure as heck am not going to hang around them for long.. (let alone 20 years). Obama will never come out and admit he believes in anything that man believes, it would mean an end to his career in American politics and he knows it. He has ties to these people and corrupt organizations (he can distance himself now but he can't deny the past.. we may not be harvard elitists but we're not stupid) and that says a lot about who he is and what he believes... what we can expect of him as "our" leader.

tom paine said...

knowitall said...

"Todd Palin is a Yupik Alaska Native.
Their children are the same.
Sarah and Todd are an interracial couple."

None of that appears to be true. The site you read has been corrected to say that Todd is 1/8 Yupik and the locals say that to be considered a Yupik requires no less than 1/4 blood.

Not that it's important... but just to keep the record straight. Let this stuff go and pretty soon Todd will have been a Yupik tribal chief!

Scott said...

"""The proof is the swings in the polls. Often the electorate goes back and forth as they look each side over. I think the decisions will be made the the last few days of the race.
Techno is 100% correct. It ain't over, doggonit!!!
Please stay optimistic!!!""""


i think it was dick morris tonight on hannity and colmes who talked about this.. when you're ahead people look squarely at you.. because obama is ahead the focus will be on him and people will sit down and come to the conclusion this really isn't a man we know enough about, a man we just can't trust to handle our country in these times.

Personally i don't follow the polls because it isn't over until all the people who aren't polled vote.

For now though we need to ask God's forgiveness on our country for the many offenses He endures daily because of us. We already know McCain is the only candidate that holds to the defense of life which is obviously God's Will. The only way God will allow a bad leader to rise up (this happened numerous times to the Israelites in the Old Testament) is if we continue in our bad ways without repentance. If we ask His Mercy on our country He will give us good leaders. God really is in charge here as we can do nothing of ourselves... everything is grace and everything is a gift coming from God.

Scott said...

i lost track of who wondered why sarah wasn't talking more about energy.. she was in my area today and here is an 8 or so minute interview in which energy is brought up a few times

http://www2.tbo.com/video/2008/oct/06/kieth-cate-exclusive-interview-sarah-palin/

Grace Explosion said...

Hey Tom,

Fair game. No one cares that Governor Palin had an African minister pray for her. McCain was cleared of all wrongdoing relative the Keating issue.

You think that you can just "attack" with nothing to "counteract" the reality of legitimate concerns.

Obama LIED to the American people about his association with a known US terrorist to the American people. He tried to COVER UP his relationship with Ayers by trying to suppress the free speech of the press and Stanley Kurtz as Stanley Kurtz was interviewed by Milt Rosenburg on WGN.

Obama sat under the preaching of Reverend Wright for 20 years. Reverend Wright spoke often against "white America".

That's the truth. America has every right to evaluate these matters without being called "racist" for legitimate concerns about a candidate who lies about his associations with US terrorists, moves to cover the truth up, and has people yell "racist!" whenever he's legitimately vetted... since the MSM didn't do that job.

techno said...

Good news: James Dobson, head of Focus on the Family just endorsed John McCain, after saying several months ago that he might not even vote for him. And as I mentioned earlier the President of NOW of LA personally endorsed Sarah Palin. How is that for miracles?

knowitall said...

Tom Paine has no idea what he's talking about in regards to Todd Palin's hertitage.
Todd Palin is an enrolled Alaska Native. The Five Children are enrolled Natives.
Bristol Palin is a Alaska Native name from Bristol Bay of the family fishing grounds
Mr. Tom, I have worked on Indian Reservations. Don't you dare try to tell me I am wrong on this.
If you want to try it again, you better provide sources

Here is a statement written by Sarah:
Palin has talked positively of her husband and children´s heritage in the past. When running for governor in October 2006, she wrote a letter addressed to rural voters, saying she ´´so very much appreciates Alaska´s First People, their proud heritage and diverse cultures so abundant in the communities throughout our state.´´

´´I personally feel the language, stories, and traditions of Alaska Native cultures are a national treasure to be nourished and held close to our hearts,´´ Palin added. ´´It is our rural lifestyle and diverse cultural heritage that distinguishes Alaska from the rest of the world and makes it our wonderful home.´´

She wrote, too, that her family has been ´´blessed´´ by learning Yup´ik traditions and stories from Helena Andree, her children´s great-grandmother and a one-time Bristol Bay Native Corporation Elder of the Year. The Palins named their oldest daughter Bristol in honor of the region many of their family members still call home.

The Elder of our local tribe, The Yakama Nation, Mr. Tomaskin, acknowledged that Todd is tribal.

knowitall said...

a source for information on Todd's Alaska Native blood and acknowledgment by the Native American people that he is tribal:

http://www.galdu.org/web/index.php?odas=3175&giella1=eng

TVFan said...

The AP is off its rocker! I read that article yesterday and it scared the crap out of me. How have we let the media get so out of control in this country?? I'm convinced that they look for anything to get Sarah Palin on -- even if it means grasping at desperate straws. It's pathetic. And then there's their deliberate avoidance of covering anything negative about Obama. I honestly can't trust a word that comes from the MSM anymore. Unbelievable!

tom paine said...

knoweitall,

You very well may have "worked on Indian Reservations" but that may qualify you on heritage just as much as being able to see Alaska qualifies one per foreign policy expertise! :).

You also say "Don't you dare try to tell me I am wrong on this."
so I will not. (don't want to make you angry)

However, the following may be of interest to you. Read it slowly and carefully and get back to us:

Sarah Palin’s husband, Todd, is a really interesting guy with a diverse background of interests and hobbies. By all accounts, he and Sarah enjoy a loving and well adjusted family life. Today is their 20th wedding anniversary - the very day Sarah was named John McCain’s running mate in the race for the White House.

Todd Palin Biography.
Todd Mitchell Palin was born on September 6, 1964 in Dillingham, Alaska and his age is 44 years old. He is a lifelong Alaskan, a production operator on the North Slope, and a four-time champion of the Iron Dog, the world’s longest snow machine race!

Todd eloped with his high school sweetheart, Sarah Heath on August 29th, 1988 to save her parents the cost of a wedding. They didn’t know they needed a witness for a wedding, so they recruited two seniors from a retirement home next to the justice of the peace.

He is a commercial fisherman, an oil field worker, a member of the United Steelworkers, and an Alaska Native. Todd’s grandmother grew up in a traditional Yupik Eskimo house in Bristol Bay and accompanied Sarah in her race for governor as she sought support from Alaska Native voters. Todd is 1/8th part Alaskan native American.

Did you catch the portion about "1/8" something or other?

Now go to your nearest Yupik tribal leader and ask if the requirement to be considered Yupik is 1/8 or 1/4.

knowitall said...

Mr Paine,
I sent you the article from Sarah stating that her husband is 1/4 Native and that the children are 1/8. The children become native because being a tribal member is an inherited right.
I worked with Native Americans who were 1/64.
I know of a white lady who ran a shop on the Hoh Reservation for 50 years. They invited her to join the tribe because they like her so much and she treated them well. She was zero per cent Native.

The article I referenced states clearly that the other tribes recognize him as tribal also.

I worked on the reservations. I dealt with the enrollment criteria. I know you are wrong. Please stop making a fool of yourself and admit it.

Dean said...

Every detail about Bill Ayers is relevant. Obama has not explained his background with Ayers. Obama sat on a committee or board with Ayers. He also helped Ayers obtain grant money to fund the education of children. The education that the children received from Ayers was not math and science. Obama met with Ayers when he started campaigning to be president. What a coincidence that Ayers and Obama live on the same street.

The problem is that this issue has been almost ignored for 21 months. The issue with Ayers should have been driven home a long time ago. However, Hillary didn't make this happen and neither has McCain.

Fox News is trying to bring the Ayers's issue front and center. I hope they beat on this until election day. I cannot believe someone with such a radical connection is leading in the polls. This demonstrates how the main stream media has ignored the issue.

Also, I believe there is more to the Ayers story and Obama is terrified that it will be uncovered.

All of Obama's community organizing is centered around the philosophy of Saul Alinsky. It is about motivating and manipulating others toward some socialist and Marxist cause.

We have never had a presidential candidate who is a Socialist, Marxist, race hating, anti- patriotic and ACORN political thug.


Finally, just imagine the media if McCain or Palin had these kinds of connections.

huskyonspeed said...

Scott: excellent point about Israel. We need to be in prayer for our country and our leaders!
Joe: I haven't seen Sarah's recent speeches, but I hope she is still talking about energy. She may be, but the Ayers bit seems to be the only part the media is reporting on.

knowitall said...

Dean et al,

'Just a reminder to you that Hillary Clinton also knew Saul Alinsky and wrote her senior thesis at Wellesley College about him.

USpace said...

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Ya can’t help but wonder, does McCain really want to win? Knocking the Dems on their failed policies is not ‘dirty politics’, it’s just the truth.
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
never mock Democrats

it’s just their religion
you RIGHT-WING INFIDEL

I’m sure Obama will fix all the problems perfectly. All progress is possible and positive if we just hope.

People should vote on the real issues and a candidate's true character and political leanings, not just a bunch of populist fluff.

People are hypnotized with Obamamania and his Obammunism. Good fodder for Obama posters here. Posters about him reflect this puppy dogs, doves and rainbows feeling. The Obama Utopia.

If Obamassiah doesn't get POTUS in 2008 and if he can stay pretty clean, do some good things as Senator, and then become Governor of IL, he could be unstoppable in 2012 or 2016. Scary stuff.

I would dearly love to see a Jewish, African-American woman as POTUS. It's not race or gender that makes it for me though. It's political beliefs that matter, and socialism is bad for everybody, (accept maybe those high in government or high-level academia) especially poor people, of all races. Obama is a dyed-in-the-wool Marxist, no thanks.

His 'Change', 'Hope' and 'Progress' mantras are actually somewhat self-mocking. Making your own Obama posters is totally addicting.
I laughed so hard I almost had a breakdown. LOL!

:)
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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
pretend to be moderate

move towards the center fast
enrage your Left wing early

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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
befriend a bomber

pushing for change at all costs
sacrifices must be made

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
only feel and hope

please force people to change
change can only be good

.
absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
NEVER ELECT a woman

OR a minority
if they are Right of center

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absurd thought -
God of the Universe says
you must be a racist

if you vote for a white man
it can't be his politics

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All real freedom starts with freedom of speech. Without freedom of speech there can be no real freedom.
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Make Some Obama Posters NOW!
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Che Makes Money for Capitalists
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Help Halt Terrorism Now!
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USpace

:)
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techno said...

For everyone that reads this post and has not seen the SNL skit on the sub-prime mortgage mess go to Ace of Spades web site under Banned Bailout Vid Up which will direct you to Pat Dollard web site and you'll understand why the Republicans may have found them the issue to win them the election.

tom paine said...

knowitall,

What in the world does "working" with someone who is "1/64" of a particular nationality have to do with anything?

Todd Palin's bio says he is 1/8 Yupik and since his grandmother (Helena Andree) was reported to be 1/4 Yupik it works out correct.

What is your big beef?

I am descended from Eastern Europe near the Russian border. I am sure that I have 1/64 or 1/128 or 1/256 (or something) of both Russian and Czeck ancestry. So does that mean that I can claim kinship with the
Romanovs or maybe the Tsars or maybe with Franz Kafka or Emil Zatopek?

Wake up and stop trying to create something that obviously (per his bio) Todd does not even claim. It means nothing.

frankym said...

Obama has associations with Bill Ayers (terroist/bomber), Rev Wright ( a complete racist), Tony Rezko (a felon), Rashid Khalidi (a former member of the PLO), Frank Marshall Davis (a communist), Khladid al-Monsour ( a radical islamist helped Obama get into Harvard), al-Monsour was born Donald Warden, a mentor to the founder of the Black Panthers. Here is one I just found. Obama earmarked millions of dollars to a Chicago organization called Aidscare. Aidscare founder and CEO is James V. Flosi. Flosi is a former Chicago priest who is a child molester. He was never charged although the claims are substantiated and the church paid off his victim(s). Thing is there are others. Obama has way too much drama for me.

Marrock said...

Energy is a dead issue for voters -the price of gas is dropping and thus it's fallen off the radar - at least for this week.

The Bill Ayers connection is too complicated to be of any influence to the average voter. It requires an attention span to follow the trail and connect the dots, and his illegal actions took place long ago. The average voter puts him in the misguided hippie catagory, like it or not, and doesn't see him as a "real" terrorist. So forget about Ayers.

Obama owns the economy issue. It's sad but true. It doesn't matter that the seeds of this disaster were planted by democrats and their utopian dreams, the Obama campain along with the media have successfully won the blame game and McCain loses here as well.

The average voter doesn't give a crap about campain funding violations, again it's too complicated.

There's no way the hardcore Obama supporters will ever change their minds, so we need to try sway the middle and excite the base.

Sarah has given the McCain campain energy and excited the base.

The middle...hmmm. They wanna know what we can do for them. Remember, we can't win this argument - Barack and the msm have this one in the bag.

So that only leaves one potential issue on the table. Barack Obama is a racist. All it takes is to put the "White folk's greed" and the "...typical white person" comments out there, over and over and over. Combine that with a bombardment of 20 years in Reverend Wright's church and we'll get those hold-outs. You don't sit in a church and listen to racist rants for twenty years and not agree. That's what the "Average Joe" will take to the voting booth.

techno said...

Just read that the first Zogby/C-Span/Reuters tracking poll has Obama at 48 and McCain at 45 with Nader and Barr at 1 apiece among likely voters with 4% still undecided. CBS as previously reported also had it 48-45 Obama and Democracy Corps (D) had it 48 Obama, 45 McCain, 3 Nader and 2 Barr. That's 3 polls on the same day that show a 3 point margin for Obama. It will be confirmed in a couple of days if the other polls start trending towards McCain as well. If these polls are accurate it can be attributed to only one factor: Palin power; and folks it may be a whole new ball game.

techno said...

I know I haven't thanked you for a while Adam, but without you none of this would have been possible, and how does it feel.if Sarah and John do win, that your single-minded vision is what saved America.

Mountain Mama said...

Yes, thanks, Adam for this great blogsite, and for your prescience re. Sarah Palin!

(Bloggers, please put your money where your keyboard is, too, and DONATE to Adam's costs.)

But rats, Techno: SNL yanked the Bailout skit from all websites! How can we shame them into re-posting it? It is SPOT ON (especially re. Barney Frank).

On a completely other, ie. serious note:
You know what? Technology provides a way for Americans to pay for ALL federal programs (including Soc. Security and this Bailout!) with a LOW and truly-fair (not fakey-"fair" like the NOT-Fair) tax.

It's the Automated Payment Transaction ("APT") Tax----and costs only 3 cents on either side of every $10 transaction.

But politicians derive power from holding tax reform over our heads, so they aren't very interested in really make hard changes in taxes. So, the ONLY way it will ever be passed into law is if the PEOPLE force the politicians to enact it!

See www.apttax.com and remember: a family who earns $50,000/year could pay only $300 TOTAL federal APT tax for the year:
-$150 total for getting paid, and
-$150 for putting it into a checking or savings account. There are NO deductions, hence everyone pays the same low tax.

Check it out. Sure wish we could prod politicians into PASSING IT!

Andrea said...

The truth will come out. Even with a completely unhinged biased media. So eventually we will all know about all the terrorists and America-haters that Barack Obama pals around with. He has been hiding so much of his life it is impossible to keep all his lies together. His memoir is almost a work of fiction.

I believe most people want to see the campaign go negative, so Barack Obama can be exposed. He can try to go negative too, but what is there to say about John McCain? Blah blah Keating 5... he was exonerated and Bill Bennett said he shouldn't have been named at all. So that one goes nowhere.. so good luck Obama campaign. When all you are running on is a failing economy and empty words, there's not much to say, except to constantly play the race card (before you say, well that was the AP who said that, MSM = Obama campaign essentially).

ayan said...

I find it really funny. The economy is in crisis because of poor decision on part of the traders and the first thing the next president has to do is a figure out a way to handle them and keep an economic system in place which basically ensures the prosperity of the world and here we are talking about Bill Ayers and Charles Keating!!!

Lisa - Mother of Nine said...

Tom Paine - re: Rev. Muthee;

I saw the video. It was a lengthy and good prayer. A couple of his sentences mentioned protection for Sarah from witchcraft. This is fairly common within evangelical Christian circles. (Ephesians 6.) The word "witchcraft" itself isn't always used in prayer, but it's understood as the same context many of us pray about, and this man comes from an African church which addresses it as witchcraft more commonly.

I and many other Christians have heard that type of prayer many times. It's just not something that is normally broadcast all over the place for others to mock.

Remember, a large number of people in America are evangelical Christians. While some are embarrassed that this was made public, the only people it surprises are those that aren't used to evangelical prayer. For many Americans to condemn it, they would have to condemn their own churches and pastors.

The difference between this and Rev. Wright is that nothing hateful is being said about anyone. This isn't a prayer that targets another person, race, or nation. To understand - one needs to understand Ephesians 6. "We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities - against the power of darkness."

I could say more, but that would get into a lengthy Bible lesson. I hope this helps to clarify why we don't see it in the same light as Rev. Wright. Bless you -

Lisa - Mother of Nine said...

Tom Paine (sorry to be writing again)

My husband (passed away four years ago) was a member of the Minnesota Chippewa Tribe. My children are 50%.

Tribal membership says 1/4 is necessary. But that's a legal definition, not an emotional or social definition. There are plenty of people less than 1/4 that identify with their tribal heritage. And there are others, with 100% heritage that prefer not to.

But even on the legal side - Many Tribal governments have used the Indian Child Welfare act to take children who are less the 1/4 tribal out of their homes and place them with people that the tribes have chosen. This is not uncommon and is a horrible crime against children. Check out caicw.org/familystories.html for more on that. At any rate, Mr Palin was apparently raised on the reservation, and yes, that makes a difference as far as understanding interracial matters.

Lisa - Mother of Nine said...

Scott; Amen

"If we ask His Mercy on our country He will give us good leaders. God really is in charge here as we can do nothing of ourselves... everything is grace and everything is a gift coming from God."

Ray said...

I still don't undertstand the Couric interview. If you wanted a non-Fox interview, why not Kelly O'Donnell?

Some people acccused O'Donnell of making fun of McCain's tech ability, but if you listen to her report, she does not. She actually reports what the McCain campaign tells her, rather than trying to filter in any bias of her own.

She is the most well informed on McCain's campaign, and she appears to try to be unbiased in asking interview questions. In a late September interview, she makes it McCain's interview and not hers. She asks a question and then lets McCain talk. Then she goes on to another question and then lets McCain talk about that. It's almost like she wants us to form our own opinions. But I guess that's just too crazy to do.

O-bots cannot stand her (how dare someone on NBC try to be unbiased in reports/interviews), but I think most people would be fine with her.

Zack said...

I think a lot of conservatives would prefer McCain lost this election. With 58 Democrats in the senate, it is unlikely that any reasonable Supreme Court appointments would be confirmed.

On the economy, the congress has most of the control here, but the president gets a disproportionate share or the blame or credit. This worked greatly to Clinton's advantage, but it is clear the economy will be a mess over the next four years, and Pelosi and company will likely make things worse. It would be a shame to see a Republican president get the blame for this.

The phrase I have heard muttered more that once by disheartened conservatives is, "I guess we need another Jimmy Carter."

Despite Sarah's energy and optimism, I think you will see Republican turn-out will be anemic compared to 2004.

I think the Republicans have a far better chance of winning back congress with a Democrat in the White House, especially in difficult economic times.

Jan said...

Obama had a new commercial on the air this morning--at least it's new for this area. It's saying McCain and Obama both voted not to support the troops, but the difference was Obama voted to support the troops with a timeline for pulling out. If we pull out before things are right there, and give Al-Quada a chance to grow there, all our men and women who have died over there will have died in vain. We're there, we need to finish it. We need Iraq on our side and we need to prevent leaving an environment for Al-Quada to flourish (and telling them when we're leaving is just ridiculous). If we pull out too soon, every one of those lives will have been lost for nothing. They fought for us, we have to honor their sacrifice.

I do think McCain should get Romney out there talking about the economy. He's already said the economy is not his strength--get Romney out there and show that he will have strong people to cover the areas where he is weak.

Patriot1776 said...

you exactly summed up why must NOT allow BO to get into the white house.

The Supreme Court and judges would be an absolute nightmare.

Yes, we know McCain, but he is by FAR a better option to get better judges and Sarah Palin will be there as a voice of reason in his administration.

Better on another 'Jimmy Carter' with a Senate upwards of 58 Dems, and a Dem house could set our country back decades.

Is that what you really want? The effects of BO supreme court nominee would have decades and decades of impact on our nation.

That alone should scare you to get motivated. If Sarah Palin can't get you motivated however, not much else will.

techno said...

from the genius of Rush Limbaugh: Do you know what Osama bin Laden and Barack Obama have in common? They both know someone who bombed the Pentagon!

momprayn said...

Wanted to share with everyone who don't know to check out Rush Limbaugh's website:rushlimbaugh.com
Think I remember reading one of you are a fan. Great stuff. He's really "pro Palin". Loves what she's saying now. All kinds of interesting,truthful stuff you won't hear elsewhere. Yes, he mentioned the SNL skit that he loved re the economic mess (Barney Frank, etc.) Said it would be on his website but I don't see it yet. On the radio from 11:00am-2:00pm Central time.

Mountain Mama said...

Thanks for the info., Prayin'Mom, re. the SNL Bailout skit's being posted soon (we hope) on Rush's website; COOL!

You remind me, too: PLEASE PRAY HARD that McCain will stay cool/calm, have fun, give LOTS of key information about Obama (and Barney Frank re. Bailout!) tonight at the debate-----and WIN!

Pray, and pray that McCain prays, too! He's been sounding TERRIFIC lately!

huskyonspeed said...

Zack, you make some good points. But, back in '91 there were 57 dems in the Senate and we still got Clarence Thomas on the bench. The nominations maybe weren't as politicized as they are now, but I would rather have McCain putting a moderate on the SC than Obama putting a liberal.

Scott said...

"""But rats, Techno: SNL yanked the Bailout skit from all websites! How can we shame them into re-posting it? It is SPOT ON (especially re. Barney Frank).""""

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK9dt0yqpIk

Scott said...

""""""I think a lot of conservatives would prefer McCain lost this election. With 58 Democrats in the senate, it is unlikely that any reasonable Supreme Court appointments would be confirmed.""""""""


i don't quite understand this... so they would prefer we have a democrat president and a democrat controlled senate? as for appointing new judges this would be a disaster.

Jill said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79fC0jAi2gc

If you need a primer on the Weather Underground, as well as a little more knowledge on Ayers/Dohrn, and how Barack and Michelle Obama are associated with them, visit the link above.

Scott said...

a few people asked about the snl video.. you can find it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK9dt0yqpIk


if you want to download it you can use the following youtube download program
http://www.techcrunch.com/get-youtube-movie/


the video can be played on this player
http://www.videolan.org/

Jill said...

Crazy pictures. Toward the end there are some pro-Palin ones, then the very end gets anti-Palin again. A look at how the other half has its fun.

http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20081004

12thMan said...

" huskyonspeed said...
Zack, you make some good points. But, back in '91 there were 57 dems in the Senate and we still got Clarence Thomas on the bench. The nominations maybe weren't as politicized as they are now, but I would rather have McCain putting a moderate on the SC than Obama putting a liberal."

Husky, with all due respect to a fellow ESB, are you saying you'd rather have Souter than Ginsburg?

I guess 50 is better than 0, but you really expect to be bent over by liberals (see domain, eminent; god, sign from; Pelosi, Nancy) time and again and you don't really expect to be sideswiped by moderates (Souter, Kennedy about half the time; see also McCain, Bush)

That said, Barry's nominees to the bench would be scary. They'd make Harriet Miers look like Scalia. So I guess mods would look great in comparison. There's one thing Bush hasn't screwed up (If Reagan has to be stuck with Kennedy, then no way HM goes in the record book).

Jill said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvROBLortBQ

CNN had this. It would never have come out again, and at this time, before the debate, if Sarah hadn't come out with it on the stump. Hard to believe CNN put it on. Now it remains to be seen if anyone cares.

Mountain Mama said...

Scott et al.! They took the SNL Bailout video out AGAIN! This is really CREEPY!

Okay, so I found it once more, and I hope it lasts; download it QUICKLY at:

www.michellemalkin.com

Bless Malkin's heart, too!

I've never been a "conspiracy believer," but this mess about the SNL skit does seem just that creepy........

12thMan said...

Mountain Mama said...

"Scott et al.! They took the SNL Bailout video out AGAIN! This is really CREEPY!

Okay, so I found it once more, and I hope it lasts; download it QUICKLY at:

www.michellemalkin.com

Bless Malkin's heart, too!

I've never been a "conspiracy believer," but this mess about the SNL skit does seem just that creepy........"

I'm actually shocked to see a FUNNY skit on SNL anytime during the last decade (with few exceptions: Cowbell, Jackie Chan, Celebrity Jeopardy), that and anything that actually knocks liberals is actually allowed by raging lib Lorne Michaels, who apparently wasn't too busy trying to free O.J. to notice after all.

Rick said...

I'd say Obama shouldn't throw stones!! Racism is a two way street!!

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Mountain Mama said...

YEOWZAH - WOWEE! McCain did a TERRIFIC job in tonight's debate----and did HE look SWANKY tonight?! What a neat suit he wore!

See? Not just women politicians should look fantastic!
;->

What was COOL was to notice how many people subconsciously were NODDING in agreement with McCain as he spoke! NEAT, NEAT, NEAT!

I was glad to hear many foreign policy questions tonight, since those were cut short in their previous debate. McCain just SHONE! GOOD JOB, Senator!

(Btw, did you notice how even Senator Obama looked in awe of Senator McCain at the end, during McCain's very moving closing speech?)

Scott said...

i can't understand why nbc keeps reporting to youtube to pull that link i posted above.. there are numerous snl videos on youtube going back even years.. why they are crying copyright on the bailout skit is beyond me.... i did download it though

huskyonspeed said...

You're right 12thman, part of the problem with the SC is we have Stevens and Souter (and Kennedy sometimes) who were appointed by republican presidents but are way too liberal. I would much prefer that McCain put more justices like Scalia on the bench. But no matter who he puts on, I think they would be better than any appointee by Obama.
BTW, that was such a boring, over-rehearsed debate. All we got was the old talking points, nothing new. Yeesh.

Scott said...

it's finally on rush's website!

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_100708/content/01125107.guest.html

which is also a youtube link so who knows how long this one will last


actually they must have faced a firestorm because it's now back up on the snl website.. better quality here

http://nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/c-span-bailout/727521/

techno said...

I'm sorry to say this but Sarah somehow or some way must be put in the position as the top of the ticket and the main focal point (but not formally acknowledged as so), whether it's through major speeches, interviews and policy announcements of the campaign. If this does not happen soon and if it remains McCain vs Obama we will lose and America will lose. But make no mistake--I don't think this is over and Sarah has drawn blood from Obama and will continue to inflict damage on the Obama campaign. I know she can rise to the test, but will the McCain campaign allow her to do so.

Shay said...

Hi-
I haven't posted here a quite a while, but I just had to update that I went to the Sarah Palin rally this afternoon in Pensacola, and I thought of "The Original Ted" because they started playing Shania Twain's "Pretty Face" as she left the stage!

techno said...

Dana Millbank of the Washington Post just insinuated that Sarah is a racist. You know if the MSM is resorting to this tactic with a month to go you know that Sarah is dangerous and Obama knows she is dangerous, because he no longer has the power to destroy her.

republicanfeminist said...

The New Agenda wrote to Slate in response to their sexist cartoon of Governor Palin sitting with a Bible tucked between her legs.

They asked for Slate to remove the sexist image of the Governor.

This is their response in The New Agenda's new blog post.

Secure Men Don’t Attack Women (but insecure adolescents do)
October 7, 2008

by The New Agenda

Yesterday The New Agenda received the following response from David Plotz:

October 6, 2008

Thanks for your note, and I’m sorry the article troubled you. Perrotta’s piece is insightful, witty, and provocative. He clearly separates the sexual sites from Palin, and no reasonable reader could possibly claim he was imputing their provocations to her. As to the larger issue of Palin’s sex appeal, only someone living in a cave for the past month could deny that it is an important element in her appeal. Conservative commentators talk about her sex appeal all the time, and with great enthusiasm; Within the McCain campaign itself they call her the VPILF. Perrotta has pointed out what is obvious to every single person who has analyzed her effect on the race—pointed out what her most avid supporters are saying about her.

Needless to say, we will not be removing it or altering it.

Sincerely,

David Plotz

Which raises the obvious question: why are some men so insecure about their status? Why are some men unable to move forward from a high school-type maturity level?

Haven’t we all noticed where the attacks are coming from? It’s men who don’t feel comfortable in their own skin. Because they are insecure of their standing with other men and in society in general, they choose to strike out at the old comfortable target: women. We say “old and comfortable” as this is reminiscent of their days of adolescence.

Don’t worry, David and Tom. You can peacefully co-exist with women when you can come to terms with your insecurities. We are not the enemy – promise. Degrading and diminishing women by sexualizing them doesn’t make you a bigger man – it’s makes you a high school boy.
***
If you’d like to share your thoughts with Butthead David Plotz, here’s his email address:
[email]David.Plotz@slate.com[/email]

http://thenewagenda.net/2008/10/07/secure-men-dont-attack-women-but-insecure-adolescents-do/

Mongo Mere Pawn said...

Where to start?

There is no way to describe tonight's townhall as anything other than a missed opportunity. Yes, Senator McCain hit Senator Obana and his "cronies" for taking money from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobbyists, but my dog could have made the argument ten times as well (and I don't have a dog). Senator McCain has repeatedly said that he will fight for us and name names when it is necessary. Barney Frank? Chris Dodd? Nancy Pelosi? Harry Reid? The system needs reform and these individuals blocked Senator McCain's attempt to reform it because they were "encouraged" to do so by DEMOCRATIC executives and lobbyists for these entities, all of whom used the revolving door of government to game both sides of the street to the detriment of the taxpayers, like we're they're fricken piggybanks. If you, the taxpayers, think these guys will do anything other than what their lobbyist friends want them to do, just like they've done for the last two years while they've been in control of the purse strings, then you are fools who will soon have nothing to eat but hope and change.

On second thought, a missed opportunity is too polite. He whiffed completely.

Senator McCain made some good points on foreign policy, but again failed to name names. Who is advising Senator Obama? What is they're record on foreign policy? Senator Biden voted against Desert Storm in 1991, for the Iraq War in 2003, and wanted to hand $200 billion to the Iranians, no strings attached, after 9/11. Oh, he also managed to make the single most assinine foreign policy statement in a debate since President Ford infamously said that Poland was not under Soviet domination in 1976, i.e., that we and France - that's right, France -- kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon and failed to fill the vacuum created by that feat with NATO troops (as urged by Senators Biden and Obama at the time). The last time we had ANY troops in Lebanon was in 1983 when we lost over 200 Marines in the barracks bombing set off by who? Hezbollah. Not only did we NOT kick Hezbollah out of Lebanon, Hezbollah arguably kicked US out of Lebanon. Given the fact that Senator McCain took the opportunity to remind everyone that he was against sending the Marines to Lebanon, that would have been an excellent time to point out that Senator Obama's primary foreign policy advisor is a complete imbecile.

And what about the federal courts and foreign policy? Possibly THE most important development in constitutional jurisprudence in the last five years is the willingness of the four liberal members of the Supreme Court, with the assistance of their willing dupe, Justice Kennedy, to involve themselves in purely executive branch war powers, such as giving the likes of Osama bin Laden habeas corpus rights. This very day, U.S. District Judge Ricardo Urbina, a Clinton appointee, ordered the release of Uighur (Chinese Muslim) terrorists detained in Gitmo AFTER BEING PICKED UP IN AFGHANISTAN TRAINING WITH AL QUEDA not back to their place of origin, oh no, but on their own recon in WASHINGTON, D.C.!!! They've been held too long in this non-war that we are fighting, went the idiot's reasoning, which, I must say, finds support in the habeas corpus decision of Justice Kennedy (Are you seeing a pattern?), and they can't be sent back to their country of origin for fear of retribution, the poor dears, so let's make sure they feel right at home here in America. A Clinton appointee. Senator Biden voted for him. For all I know, Senator McCain voted for him. But there are crickets chirping about the loss of self-government through the resort to the unaccountable federal judiciary by organizations who care more for the rights of foreigners trying to kill us than for ordinary Americans.

Senator Obama opposed giving those responsible for our national security the authority to listen in on international calls. He's called for shutting down Gitmo without telling any of us where he would put these terrorists. His party is much more comfortable with federal judges making foreign policy decisions than people directly accountable to the voters.

And Senator McCain can't be bothered to even raise the point.

Three Supreme Court nominations are likely for the next President. We have yet to hear a single word about the importance of these nominations.

And these nominations will also be critical to whether anything that Congress has done with regard to the financial crisis will actually be allowed to work. The Democrats have already made it clear that they want to give federal judges the authority to completely rewrite mortgages, including not just the interest rate, but also the amount of the principal. Oh, you agreed to buy that house for $150,000 with an adjustable rate up to 8 percent? Okay, let's make it $85,000 and 5 percent fixed rate. Talk about nationalizing the banking system. No one will know what anything is worth if the federal judiciary gets to ignore the Contract Clause, and the types of judges Senator Obama will nominate will not be constrained in any manner by the actual language of the Contract Clause. Living constitutionalism, don't you know?

AAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!

Ted said...

Shay, thanks for remembering my urgings that Shania Twain's "Not Just a Pretty Face" be Palin's theme song. Apparently the Palin people agreed. (I saw that too on TV and had a real laugh over that!)

Now, on to a more somber note -- bottom line on the 'townhall' debate: McCain just can't or won't cut it. He needed something out of the box like saying, "Tom, I know you're not asking but I must explain EXACTLY WHY OBAMA'S EXTENSIVE CAREER ASSOCIATIONS WITH WILLIAM AYER, REVEREND WRIGHT, TONY REZKO AND ACORN ET AL MAKE HIM UTTERLY UNACCEPTABLE TO BE POTUS, ALONG WITH NAMING THE FANNIE/FREDDIE CONGRESSIONAL FRAUD ENABLERS, BARNEY FRANK AND CHRIS DODD.

McCain did not do these things, so he will lose the election, that is, barring one game changer, which is, McCain immediately pulls out of the race for health reasons, and Palin becomes the Presidential Nominee and campaigns as she has been 24/7!

(Having said this, I still do want to thank McCain for having elevated Palin to the national scene; at least he did that and deserves great credit for doing so. Fearing a McCain/Palin loss in '08, I'm hoping and expecting Sarah remains viable and is the frontrunner to be the GOP Presidential nominee in '12.)

Grace Explosion said...

I am concerned. I believe that McCain/Palin are going to win this election. However, there is incredible voter fraud. ACORN is an organization working very hard this campaign. They create voter fraud. The level of voter fraud for a candidate like Obama with, imo, no real patriotism, no real love for America, no real respect for our democratic system, seeking a Marxist socialist "revolution" would not hesitate to commit voter fraud. He's a person who associates with Bill Ayers who went so far as to bomb in an effort to overthrow our government AND who still today seeks revolution to overthrow democracy. I personally don't believe Obama has any "moral commitment" to abstaining from campaign contrubtion fraud or voter fraud.

I'm really concerned and I'm not sure what is being done - but I really believe it's going to be an issue.

I hope the Republicans are highly aware of this very concentrated effort to stuff the ballot boxes.

(A person would have to read up on ACORN to know what I mean. Please feel free to do a search on it.)

Grace and peace. God bless.

knowitall said...

In both the Drudge poll and the MSNBC poll after the debates, three times as many people voted in the Palin/Biden contest than voted in the contest between McCain/Obama tonight.

My beautiful and intelligent wife said she was glad the debate was on because she needed a nap. It put her right to sleep.

Sarah's doing a great job. She had three stops on 10/7 and all were well received in the local media. She handled a jerk in the audience well also.

Mountain Mama said...

I just watched the debate a second time. I disagree that McCain should have attacked Obama more. First, attacking the opposition is the VPs' role. But second, this ENTIRE election cycle, Americans have begged politicians NOT to go negative in ads.

The pundits reply, "Negative ads work; they plant doubt in people's minds." But this election is completely DIFFERENT. People are in debt or in peril of job losses, and are very scared! They do NOT want negativity; they want solutions and information.

(Just now, CNN has announced that the Asian markets plunged 5%-10% today. Ack! Wall Street will be freaking out by opening bell.....)

To avoid negativity, McCain suggested his mortgage rescue plan. Guess what? He first mentioned this plan LAST APRIL!

Also, MANY people called for a similar mortgage buy-out all last week: "Why doesn't Congress vote for a bail-out package that gives the money NOT to the corporations who failed, but to Americans, so they can pay their mortgages and hang onto their homes!" Remember?

I've decided that, like Sarah Palin, McCain is the right candidate for "JUST SUCH A TIME AS THIS." We need a genuinely center-right candidate who constantly works with the opposition to craft compromises, and praise God we've got one!

So----McCain won the debate. Let's pray he and Sarah Palin will win the election-----and let's all PLEASE think and pray POSITIVELY about this ticket!!!!!!!!!!!!

Love you all, truly I do.....

TrueRedHead said...

The biggest disappoint about this event is that it was NOT really a "Town Hall" forum. The nature of the questions Brokaw chose - and it was left entirely to him - confined the discussion to issues already largely discussed, so it was basically a nothing-to-see-here folks situation.

I know you GUYS (Husky, Mongo, Techno & Ted) wanted to see some big "game changer" tonight and it didn't happen. But the format really didn't allow for anything dramatic.

McCain made his points clearly and countered some of Obama's B.S. very effectively. It seemed to me he connected well with the group onstage. I was watching body language, subtle head nods, leaning forward slightly. In contrast, I saw a couple of facial expressions indicating skepticism as Obama spoke.

McCain's closing remarks made a very strong statement about who he is and how he differs from his opponent.

The "a@@-kicking" stuff really requires a different forum. Don't doubt that Ayers/Acorn/Vote Fraud is getting some well-deserved (if belated) attention where it counts.

techno said...

from the Astute Bloggers: if Obama was so headstrong, as he said in the debate, to militarily intervene or invade a country for humanitarian motives to stop genocide and ethnic cleansing (Darfur, Congo, Rwanda) why did he oppose the invasion of Iraq where this was going on under the regime of Sadaam Hussein?

techno said...

I also think Sarah should go after Ayre's wife Bernadine Dorne; what she said after the Manson massacre was disgusting. Also they should make an ad with the man who was a 9 years old boy who Ayres wanted to kill while he was a terrorist. I think what Sarah is doing is unveiling the cast of characters one at a time to give the American public time to digest the rogue's gallery.

azaeroprof said...

Additional note on the debate: Obama had something of a "Gerald Ford" moment.

Obama: "If we could have intervened effectively in the Holocaust, who among us would say that we had a moral obligation not to go in?"

I think a fair number of American, British and Russian liberators might be surprised to find out that we didn't "go in".

knowitall said...

Mountain Mama,

You are correct, as always. Techno's jersey has been retired, but you are getting close.

I read the transcript of that last zen question. Obama answered it from the perspective of what can go wrong.
Sen McCain answer was Reaganesque (I hope I spelt that correctly). He spoke about the future for all of us together. It was an excellent answer.

As I wrote before, it is ultimately optimism that wins elections. That's what FDR brought to the battle against the depression. That is what McCain closed with last night.
Sarah is a leader who speaks to that American spirit which says that we can do anything we set our minds and hearts to.
I am willing to bet that a bond that holds all of us together is the belief that our best days are still ahead of us. And that is what we see in Gov. Palin.

Night Owl said...

Some of the national polls are starting to narrow. I know all of us here can be counted on but I am begging people to PLEASE remember to tell all of your conservative friends and family to vote!!! No matter which state you live in!!!! The MSM is trying to make us believe that it's over for McCain, and some conservative bloggers are starting to buy into it. IT'S NOT OVER! It's a challenge but it is NOT over and we need everyone to get everyone they know (who is conservative!) out to vote. We can't let a malaise kick in!!

I'm sorry for the rant but the sight of these polls narrowing hit a real nerve. They are trying to subtly declare this election over a month before Election Day and it is infuriating.

Ray said...

Today's daily tracking polls show indication of McCain gaining ground. I haven't seen one poll going more in Obama's direction. Obviously, I have not seen Gallup, since that comes out at about 13:30 Eastern Time. Normally, I don't pay heed to a one day movement, but all the polls so far show a slight shift in the same direction.

I bet most of the polls were taken before the debate. The impact of the debate may not be known until Saturday (which is the combined polling of Wed, Thurs, and Fri).

-Ray, the libertarian Republican in NJ

Danielle said...

Because she is a women the media will create every sort of lie to make a story with high ratings.

Mountain Mama said...

Lord, how many ways will the MainStream Media find to put down Sarah Palin? Have you SEEN the close-up of the "Newsweek" cover!? Give the girl a BREAK, and PLAY NICE----and this, after they put a stupid HA-LO over Obambi's head!----HELLO-OOO???????? BI-AS!!!!!!!

Lord, requite.....

Jan said...

Did anyone see the short Biden interview on CBS after the debate last night? I can't find it online. I was falling asleep, so I'm not sure he said what I thought he said. I sure would like to hear it again.

Twenty-eight days is still a long time in an election. Even the CBS polls are showing the gap closing.
It's not over by a long shot.

Keep it up, Sarah!

huskyonspeed said...

Techno, great point about Obama and Saddam's genocide in Iraq. I never even thought of that.

techno said...

Folks, just accept that this election is now a fight to the finish. Rush Limbaugh just said it: "Do not throw in the towel. Obama does not close well when he has an opponent on the ballot (Hillary Clinton). Do not believe Chuch Todd or the MSM that this is over...we must drag McCain across the finish line and deal with him when he gets to the White House--one step at a time."

Rick said...

There are two primary reasons a voter would pull the lever for Obama.
1. Ignorance of who he is and what he wants to do.
2. Such an overshadowing hatred for Bush that they'd vote the anti-Christ into power.

My name is,
Richard Neal Huffman and I approve this message.

horseman said...

She needs to be the instrument that exposes the truth or the race is lost - regardless of what republican advisors say! Remember when Hillary gained ground in the primaries against Obama. It was when these negative things came out. Because the press has been so brutal on Sarah and family, she can talk about these things and get away with it (things like rev. wright). People are being decieved and old man mccain is incapable of pulling the gloves off. He was sooooooo weak in this second debate. Someone needs to tell Sarah to go deeper into Obama's associations with her talk, and not back down. The man went to a racist chruch for 20 years... and nobody is talking about that. It is insane. Look up this, quickly before they change it:

wikipedia, james cone, black liberation theology

obama was baptized in it, married in it, raised children in it... and no one asks why??!!!!!?????

Ping Pong said...

Palin is as racist against Obama as Obama was sexist against Palin when he made that "lipstick on a pig" comment (that wasn't even about Palin).

You can't have it both ways.

Rick said...

Palin is SO far from being a racist. Obama on the other hand? How can one sit in the pews of a racist spewing hatred for 20 years, accepting it, and not be racist?

Scott said...

McCain needs to come out and use the words that He is not Bush.. it's basically the main argument Obama has and it's the wave he's riding on. If it's ok to link McCain with Bush then can we link Obama to Pelosi, Frank or Reed? Let's check to see how much in his past he's voted in line with these people.. or how about we link him to the Democrat controlled congress with an approval rating of 9 to 14%. I think this is an argument McCain needs to make because he's not another Bush.


i wouldn't really call last night a town hall debate.. it was a podium debate where the candidates walked around a little.

"what don't you know and how will you learn it?"-- tom brokaw are you kidding me?

Scott said...

"""""mountain mamma---
I just watched the debate a second time. I disagree that McCain should have attacked Obama more. First, attacking the opposition is the VPs' role. But second, this ENTIRE election cycle, Americans have begged politicians NOT to go negative in ads.""""""

i watched parts of the debate again on a site that had one of those stock market like monitors and every time McCain would go personal on Obama the lines would go down. It's a tough situation.

Scott said...

sorry for the couple replies but i always think of something else after i post

""""""mountain momma--
But second, this ENTIRE election cycle, Americans have begged politicians NOT to go negative in ads.

The pundits reply, "Negative ads work; they plant doubt in people's minds." But this election is completely DIFFERENT. People are in debt or in peril of job losses, and are very scared! They do NOT want negativity; they want solutions and information."""""""""""

-------------------

dick morris wrote a good article on negative campaigning and it made some sense

Negative campaigning is good for America
http://townhall.com/columnists/DickMorrisandEileenMcGann/2008/10/07/negative_campaigning_is_good_for_america

the last paragraph particularly


Political Assaults Help Uncover Pols’ Flaws For The Voters

If there is one Darwinian adaptation that the American people have made to modern times, it is the ability to sift through a wide variety of claims and to determine for themselves which are specious and which are accurate. We realize that the days during which we could trust any one media outlet or candidate to give us the full story are long over -- if they ever existed in the first place. We realize that truth is a synthesis of the various claims made by the left and the right, the Democrats and Republicans, and the incumbents and the challengers.

Voters see negative advertising as another form of information. They so distrust politicians that they want to see their opponents tear them down so they can get at the truth. In fact, voter attitudes toward politicians are akin to their opinions of criminal defendants (they could be forgiven for confusing the two). Just as juries want a prosecutor who tears the defendant apart and punches holes in his alibi, so they want a political candidate to run ads exposing his opponent.

Of course, negative ads do not always work. Sometimes they backfire big time. So when a candidate runs a negative ad, he takes his life, career, and reputation in his hands. If the ad turns out not to be true and an alert opponent jumps on him and runs a rebuttal ad exposing its inaccuracies, he can lose the election in a heartbeat.

Voters have a skilled baloney detector embedded in their consciousness. They know that politicians who have proclaimed their own honesty have ended up in prison, while others who say "read my lips, no new taxes" have broken their solemn vows and jacked up rates anyway. So they watch all television with suspicion. To succeed, nega­tive ads must work overtime to get in under the detector.

Negative ads must emphasize fairness and accuracy even at the price of having less overt impact. The best nega­tive ad I ever ran was for Jeff Bingaman in his 1982 race to unseat astronaut turned Sen. Harrison "Jack" Schmitt. The ad went as follows: "Do you think we should drill for oil in national parks and wilderness areas? The candidates for Senate disagree. Jack Schmitt says yes, we need the oil. Jeff Bingaman says no, we need to protect our national heritage more. Two good men run for Senate, but they disagree on oil drilling in parks and wilderness areas. So, on Election Day, vote for the o ne who agrees with you." The ad appeared so evenhanded -- and was so accurate -- that it overcame voter distrust and led to an upset victory for Bingaman.

To work, negative ads must be believable. To accuse an opponent of being soft on child molesters won't work. It lacks credibility. One cannot ask voters to believe such ill of an opponent that he deserves not just defeat but imprisonment. But to say that he puts his perception of constitutional rights ahead of convicting child molesters does work.

Paint a picture. Negatives must be thematic. John McCain, in the current campaign, is too scattershot, one day hitting Barack Obama for his Chicago political connections and then accusing him of vapid celebrity the next. It is only when the negative campaign paints a consistent picture that it can work.

Some political consultants, including most Republicans, treat positive advertisements like the overture before the show begins, marking time until the real campaign starts and the negatives begin to hit. That's wrong. Positive ads that explain a program, develop a theme, or spell out hot-button issues are still the most effective communications in politics. But negative ads work and have their place. They are how the voters find truth in a morass of claims and counterclaims. With much of the media oriented toward the left or the right, negative ads are often the only way voters can penetrate the claims of the various campaigns and get the facts.

Voters always tell pollsters that they hate negative ads, but politicians continue to run them. That's because the same polls show that they work. In a world with flawed politicians, we need negative ads; otherwise, we won't know candidates' defects until it's too late.

Scott said...

it wasn't the most flattering picture but honestly i didn't even think that there might be something wrong with it until this morning on fox they had a girl on saying how much of a slap in the face it was. I can't see how it's a bad picture because if you're standing in front of her, that's what you see... she probably looks a lot better there than the person who took the photo.
They could have at least given her the obama halo though..

Scott said...

here i go again with my multiple posts..


a strategist on fox this morning said not to follow closely the polls because they often can't be trusted.. you should spot the republicans 5 points because of the bias in the media. I forgot which president but there have been a few that won and were down as much as 30 points at this point in the race.

huskyonspeed said...

"I forgot which president but there have been a few that won and were down as much as 30 points at this point in the race."

Scott, off the top of my head I can only think of one such instance, in '76 Ford was down by something like 33 points after the convention and came back to make it a close race, but still lost. That was a "change" election too. The polls are fun to look at, but they are kinda like preseason predictions in football, they're not always accurate.

D-Dub said...

Techno,

You asked how come in the debates Obama supports military intervention for humanitarian causes like genocide and ethnic cleansing in Dufar, Rwanda and Somolia, get he voted against the war in Iraq where there was genocide.

Well, the genocide in Iraq was a bogus reasons for invading. The genocide took place 14 years earlier from 1987 to 1989. The no fly zone was protecting the Kurds after that.

Going into Iraq for genocide makes just as much sence as going into Germany in 1961, 14 years after the genocide was over.

Mountain Mama said...

The panel on my favorite TV news show (Brit Hume's "Special Report") just agreed that, unless some extraordinary event occurs that helps the McCain-Palin ticket, it's trending toward losing.

How can anyone presume to predict SQUAT about this funky election? The tanking stock market killed McCain-Palin's former lead; something event might bring the ticket back to primacy.

I still maintain (agreeing in this regard with Dick Morris) that INFORMATIVE ads with absolute honesty will help Americans learn about the real danger of Obama; those wouldn't constitute "negative ads," in my opinion.

WHERE ARE the informational ads from the Party and other groups? I rarely see one! Where are our R. Party dollars going these days!?

Was it wise for Mrs. McCain to speak out today? Will they attack her now?

12thMan said...

D-Dub said...


"Well, the genocide in Iraq was a bogus reasons for invading. The genocide took place 14 years earlier from 1987 to 1989. The no fly zone was protecting the Kurds after that."

I dunno, what would you call Saddam's rape rooms, torture chambers and mass graves? Keeping his citizens in line?

What's next? Peacekeeping Nazis bravely held the forts at Bergen-Belsen and Auschwitz against hordes of militant Jews?

No wait, I know, the UN sanctions were working, right?

Mountain Mama said...

d-dub = DUMB!

Yeah, genocide occurred vs. the Kurds. But don't forget the murders of Shiites by Sunnis! (Oh, and vice versa....)

'Way too often, "Islam means 'peace'" just ain't so....

alyssa said...

Thanks for the great blog!

Carson Park Ranger said...

"Way too often, 'Islam means 'peace' just ain't so...."

Yes, and aren't we happy that Christianity doesn't suffer from the same hypocrisy?

techno said...

This is a strange world. CNN, from dawn to dusk spends hour after hour today casting doubts and creating skepticism about McCain's health, saying that he needed a 'knockout punch'yesterday to get back in the game and didn't get it and in fact lost the debate, that the McCain campaign is in deep trouble, struggling to attract voters and desperate as they launch their campaign to expose Obama's questionable relationships with Bill Ayres and the sub-prime duo who pocketed millions and who helped in Obama's campaign and fail miserably in doing so, that whatever Sarah is saying and doing in Florida before SRO audiences of thousands of rabid supporters is not winning over anybody but base conservatives who are already in the bag for McCain, and certainly not winning over moderates, independents or women who were Hillary Clinton supporters during the primary, that Obama is increasing his lead in the battleground states implying that his lead is becoming insurmountable in the electoral college, pundits galore (CNN analysts) claim whatever McCain is doing is futile, all this giving an unbiased objective CNN observer the impression that the election is all but over, that ' the inevitability' of the Messiah is only waiting for the fat lady to sing. Then shortly after 8PM EST Campbell Brown slips in without prior buildup that the most recent CNN national poll indicates that Obama now leads McCain 48-44 with 8% still undecided; she acknowledges in about 5 seconds that the lead has closed but does not mention that McCain has narrowed the lead by 4 points (cutting it in half) in the last 48 hours. She then goes back to the CNN narrative that Obama is way ahead and McCain is stumbling. Talk about cognitive dissonance. If I were a child, I'd be screwed up big time by such incongruity. As an adult I should know better, but is CNN so shameless to create an inaccurate narrative for 12 straight hours, reveal a poll that contradicts everything that has been said by everybody during that time and not even give a slight acknowledgement to the audience that perhaps they were too quick to jump the gun and perhaps they should be a little more cautious in the coming days in determining how the dynamics of the election are going to play out. Of course they also act like CNN has a monopoly on presidential polling and make no effort to mention that several other polls in the last 48 hours show the numbers trending dramatically in favor of the McCain campaign. Simply put folks, this is (Charlie Gibson) hubris and a great example why CNN is steadily losing credibility with its audience and the American people. Of course the last people to see this is those who run CNN who have an agenda to elect Obama. Why let the facts get in the way of their narrative!

David Hines said...

It is so hard for me to read any article written by the far-left media. It was hard for me to watch the debate last night. I start screaming at my TV. But surfing the morning show this morning I got angry again as all three far-left networks had interview's with that idiot from Delaware and I feel I can make that statement about Biden because I lived in Delaware for nearly 10 years. I understand your frustration but we must keep up the fight (no matter who wins the White House). Racism is alive and well in this country but not Gov. Sarah Palin!

Scott said...

techno you're not suggesting that cnn is biased are you? :p

knowitall said...

youtube of Ms. Couric of CBS making fun of Gov. Palin:

http://wjno.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=244038&article=4364538

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Mark said...

Just FYI, while the AP has shown itself to be incredibly biased, I was willing to bet when I clicked the link that the writer would be Douglass K Daniel, the same writer who tried to convince use that Sarah Palin's world could backfire on the McCain campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081005/ap_on_el_pr/palin_s_words_analysis

He's also the same classless jerk
who tooks shots at Tony Snow in his obituary.

http://newsbusters.org/people/douglass-k-daniel

This guy needs to be called out on this crap.